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Reason and Force

Journal Entry: Fri Dec 28, 2012, 5:41 PM
My husband found this posted as a comment on an article on Yahoo, and we both found it very well written and thought out.  I take no credit for it, and would post a link to the original article, but we can't seem to find the it now.  Found it! news.yahoo.com/white-house-tal…  Annnnd did a search for the first line and found that it comes from a blog written back in 2007.... munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com…

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Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.



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NemesisGreatrex Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally agree, as does the rest of my family and all my friends in meatspace.

Reminds me of something I saw somewhere in the interwebs - probably fictional - but there is Truth in it, methinks...

(Scene:  Cop pulls a car over for speeding (5mph over or something equally mild) and sees that the driver is a Little Old Lady looking 80-90 years old and rather frail.)
Cop:  "Hello, ma'am - licence and registration, please?"
Old Lady:  "Certainly, sir.  May I ask why you pulled me over?"
Cop:  "Nothing to worry about, you were speeding but not by much.  I'm inclined to just give a verbal warning, in fact."
Old Lady:  "Why that's right nice of you!  Oh, and before I open my purse to get my license and registration, I want to let you know I have a snubnosed .38 revolver in there - and I have the concealed carry license in there as well.  I'll hold the purse open so you can see everything I do while I get my wallet out of there and then set the purse on the dash, ok?"
Cop:  "Nice of you to give me that heads-up, and I'd rather take the pistol out myself if you don't mind, until I see that CC license?"
Old Lady:  "Certainly, sir.  Here, go ahead!"  (opens purse at window and lets the cop remove the pistol, then gets her wallet out and fetches out the documentation, hands it over to the cop)
Cop:  "Nice iron, Ma'am... CC permit is valid, thank you for showing it to me... registration is up to date...  so is your driver's license... ok, here y'go!"  (hands the papers back and smiles at her as he hands back the pistol)  "Have any others?"
Old Lady:  "Why, yes I do, in fact.  I have a .357 magnum in my console, and a 9mm semi-automatic in the glove box."
Cop:  "Oh?"  (blinks in surprise)  "Ma'am, this is a safe neighborhood - what on earth are you so afraid of?"
Old Lady:  "Not a god damn thing!"

A classic.
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
That is awesome!  Had to read it to hubby who got a good chuckle out of it as well :)
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NemesisGreatrex Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:woohoo:
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RainfeatherPearl Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012   Digital Artist
One more, and hopefully the last, lol. - [link]
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012
Thanks hon, interesting video :)
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RainfeatherPearl Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012   Digital Artist
:blowkiss:
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Hey lady! Miss you much :huggle:
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RainfeatherPearl Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012   Digital Artist
Here's one for you - [link]
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Good read! Will pass this one along to the hubby, too :)
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RainfeatherPearl Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012   Digital Artist
One more...a bit long but very good read - [link]
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Thanks hon! Hubby probably knows bout this one since he does talk about this guy. (We have the first of his Monster Hunters book sitting on the shelf waiting to read. Yes, I am behind!) I'll be sure to tell him to check it out just in case tho ;)
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RainfeatherPearl Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012   Digital Artist
Yes, do. He's really awesome. Never heard of him till all these gun control issue surfaced. Been watching him since.
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Hubby surfs thru a lot of the gun owner forums, and he's actually seen him around. I was the one who ordered his book cuz I thought it sounded like something we'd both wanna read. Soon as I told him I got it, he was like oh yeah I know of that guy. *mutters* Mister know it all :giggle:
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RainfeatherPearl Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012   Digital Artist
Missed you too, hun! Loving you more knowing where you stand on this issue.
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WickedPrince Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Here here, some sanity at last. One of my favorite quotes is "God created Man, Colt made him Equal." The other one I like is "I carry a gun, because carrying a Police Officer would be too heavy." My roommates favorite is "when seconds count, the Police are only minuets away."

The world is an irrational place, always has been, so the only rational thing you can do is EVERYTHING you can to protect yourself from that irrationality.

If giving up my own right to defend myself promoted peace, then why doesn't the US disarm itself of it's Nuclear Arsenal and Military to promote world peace? The answer is, that the government KNOWS it doesn't work, so the question is, what is the real agenda? O.O
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Very good question ;) Besides, the criminals, the people who are intentionally using any kind of weapon for harm, are never going to care about this or that law. They break them all the time now as it is. So honestly what good are more laws that will only take the weapons out of the hands of law abiding citizens? Common sense goes a long way, but sadly there's not a lot of that going around.
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WickedPrince Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012
Yeah very true. Lawmakers seem intent on the theory that if they make a strong enough law prohibiting taking a handgun to a school or other "gun free" place that these things won't happen any more, but it's a total fallacy. And so many people have been taught to believe that lawmakers are incapable of making a mistake that they believe the tripe without thought. I think somebody once said "common sense isn't all that common."
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NemesisGreatrex Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I had a t-shirt made that summed it up nicely, it said "Common Sense Isn't"
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WickedPrince Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
Yart.
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012
And ain't that the truth ;)
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Darkmuze Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
I so agree!

As the saying goes, 'God made man and woman; Colonel Colt made them equal'."
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Amen :D
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orinoor Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Brilliant!
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Yes it is, but I take no credit for it ;)
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Alpha5-3D Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Thanks for reminding me of this essay. I've had the page you linked to bookmarked, as well as a .pdf version saved on my hard drive, for 3 or 4 years now. I had completely forgotten about it.
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
No problem! When I went and read the page he found it on, I saw someone mention it being from someone else. Did a search and that blog popped right up :)
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TarienCole Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Well argued. And I cannot agree more. Martial arts are fine if you meet an attacker on equal footing. But against a truly large man, muscle mass and bone density 'will' win. Let alone the problem that criminals don't care about laws, and will be armed. I have more than one female friend who has told me owning a gun saved them from a predator. The media will not discuss this of course.
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Yeah there's no love for the media in my house. ;) I'm a firm believer in "Guns don't kill people; people kill people."
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TarienCole Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
"And people will kill people with anything they have on hand, including them."
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DesignsByEve Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Exactly!
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